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Post by Eric on Sept 28, 2006 19:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by Show Car on Sept 28, 2006 22:46:14 GMT -5
"Love them or hate them". For the most part there time has come and gone. There are more Nostalgia associations starting their own deal all over the country. The question stands, Is bigger better? You come in for a 4 day race and you are lucky if you get 1 qualifying hit. If you have a top fuel car or an A fuel car you get right up to the front. Good Guys have cool sweatshirts but, the attitude torwards the weekend racer is displeasing to say the least. With the Good Guys gone i hope it will open up new oppritunities for the staff at ANRA and all of the other nostalgia associations. Im sure that the management at Famoso is more than able to put on there own nostalgia races.
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Post by jrvanosten on Sept 29, 2006 9:35:15 GMT -5
The only thing I will say about this situation is I can appreciate the GGs event issues from both sides of the fence. I ran with them and wasn't always happy....good or bad, it was still a place for me to get with friends and race. Working to put on events let's me appreciate what they do behind the scenes....a lot of things the racers don't see, don't understand or don't care about. I guess we all have to wait and see the "official" word, but it is what it is and the nostalgia racing scene will have to move on......
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Post by Eric on Sept 29, 2006 10:48:49 GMT -5
What ever happens I hope that ANRA will continue to grow and attract more nostalgia drag racers to it's events , maybe it's time for a change . The thing to remember is that Good Guys did give us a place to race and really helped develop the nostalgia drag racing scene . I've been racing their series since 2001 and raced in almost every event since then ( how many have you raced in Showcar?) and got to watch and compete with hundreds of quality cars from Top Fuel to altered , gassers , Nostalgia Eliminators , Hot Rods and all at Really good race tracks like Las Vegas , Infineon , Famoso. We as typical complainers don't realize how difficult it is to put these events on like JR said . On only one occasion in 6 seasons did i only get 1 qualifying pass and the reason for that was the racers fault - too many messy oildowns and crashes that took away from qualifying time.. As it stands now we get 2 passes at ANRA events , I have had as many as 12 time trials at Good Guys events in Hot Rod!I had good experiences and bad experiences with their race program - mostly good . I met a lot of people I call close friends now at their events which is what it's really all about if you ask me . Ya...it's a big show and you know where you stand when you go to one of their events . If they pull the plug I will miss them and say thank you for the opportunity to be apart of it . I just hope ANRA gets some good tracks to run at , believe me the racers will come when that happens .
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Post by Gino Ofria on Sept 29, 2006 15:09:41 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about this. The GG has always made their decisions based on how much money can be made (or losted), and not what the racers themselves thought. Some of those decisions made no sense at all. Such as not having promoters insurance that covered bad weather that would have taken effect at the MM.
I'm still pissed about the Bill Burch accedent and the fact that they blamed him for driver error. I was on the startingline with many other racers when Gary Meadors came down and tryed to calm us down after the second crash. He said, "...I love these cars too, and hate to see them get damaged like this." My first though was, dosen't he care about Bill or anyone else getting hurt.
The fact that qualifying was not over with (AA, A, and B Gas had not made a run yet), before they decided to start TF eliminations. This most likely would not of effected the outcome with Gassers crashing, but it would have prevented the standoff they had with the TF guys.
Another thing that bothers me was their press releases stated that they decided to cancel the race. The fact of the matter is, the racers themselves made the decistion not to run because of the unsafe conditions and were in the process of packing up when the GG anounced their decision. The racers had a better understanding of the situation than the GG.
I also refuse to believe that the GG lost money on the race. Or at the very least not as much as they lead us to believe. No refunds to the vendors. No refunds to the racers andno refunds to the fans for 8 months. Or at least for those fans who remember were their ticket are. That money collected could be in a short term CD which would cover all expenses lost.
Still, the level of competition, the atmosphere was top notch. And I always look forward to their events for many reasons. If they go than there are many other organizations that can step up. The question is, can they co-exsist with each other and not bicker or bankrupt each other while they fight for racers and fans.
This could be a big opportuninty for the ANRA to step up and grow. There is nothing worse than to build a racecer and not have a oraganization to run under. I have stated that we would be more than willing to travel to places like Fallon to race providing that it is the right time of the year.
Enough from me, i got to go.
Gino Ofria
3638 A/GAs
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Post by KEN on Sept 29, 2006 15:49:13 GMT -5
USE YOU SPILL SHECK GENNO!  |
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Post by ATRUE GOODGUY on Sept 29, 2006 19:26:10 GMT -5
I LOVE THE GOODGUYS AND THANK THEM FOR EVERTHING THEY HAVE DONE FOR ARE SPORT
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Post by burnout on Sept 29, 2006 20:32:17 GMT -5
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The GG has always made their decisions based on how much money can be made (or losted), and not what the racers themselves thought.
That's why they call it "business." Races cost big bucks.
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also refuse to believe that the GG lost money on the race.
Believe whatever you'd like, they did big time. What's more, that money funds the rest of the less profitable events of the season.
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Another thing that bothers me was their press releases stated that they decided to cancel the race. The fact of the matter is, the racers themselves made the decistion not to run because of the unsafe conditions and were in the process of packing up when the GG anounced their decision. The racers had a better understanding of the situation than the GG.
This is a false statement. The race was called on the line, and then PA'ed from the tower. Of course they were packing up, they heard them call it on the line.
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He said, "...I love these cars too, and hate to see them get damaged like this." My first though was, dosen't he care about Bill or anyone else getting hurt.
That's a crappy thing to say about another human being... nobody wants to see anyone get hurt.
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jadua
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Post by jadua on Oct 1, 2006 18:55:16 GMT -5
Hails All,
Been a while since i posted anything but I do stop by often to visit. I have the white falcon running A/gas. I have run goodguys for years and almost all races for ANRA last year.
Im rebuilding the car, making major changes and what i thought would take a few months, has taken about 10 months. Ill miss the Hot Rod reunion but should make any races after that.
I had heard for sometime the coming of the end for GG drag racing.
It was never there baby (drag racing) and most things at GG seemed to reflect that. I was always happy to have somewhere to race and always enjoyed the 3 day events and all the fellowship with other racers. Man for ANRA to be able to put together something for Bakersfield would be very cool . I dont know that i would travel there for a one day event but wish ANRA the very best of luck with there future and look forward to racing with you again very soon.
Blessings to all
Stan Blosk
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Whoz Yo Daddy
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Post by Whoz Yo Daddy on Oct 2, 2006 9:23:05 GMT -5
I'm with Stan on ANRA events at Famoso. As I've stated, I would be willing to do whatever is within my power to help secure some (or all) of the ANRA events at Bakersfield. We can piggyback events with Summit, have class shootouts, or just rent the track for a few of our events. Bedrock, Inyokern, and other small orgs like those could be piggybacked as well.
I dont know what this winter will bring... but I betcha it wont be a dull year.
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Whoz Yo Daddy
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Post by Whoz Yo Daddy on Oct 2, 2006 9:32:31 GMT -5
I have raced or been on a team that raced in 12 Good Guys events with the Daddy, the Avila car, or Ron's orange altered. With the exception of the (3) Pomona events, we have never been given nearly the number of runs we were promised, been treated as a real class, or run when scheduled. The GoodGuys let NE sit in the lanes more than any other class, so it was never surprising to see uprisings. We were the second largest class in those events, and save Hot Rod, no one else brought more entries than us. It didn't take the rain to put a bad taste in my mouth.
Eric, I respect your experience. You've raced in moer GG events than anyone, but it was in a class that the GG allowed to run. We sat and sat while door cars got 4 and 5 time runs, went rounds, and did all the racing. Hell... I paid to travel and got one pass. It sucks the way we got treated.... so you know where you can find sympathy. It's in the dictionary. Right between sh...it and syphyllus.
Sorry.
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Post by paul on Oct 2, 2006 10:14:21 GMT -5
just to voice my opinion on the matter,. I had called the editor of the gg mag on the way we were being treated, this was some years back, to voice my opinion on what happened and that they should write a small piece on that race weekend, from that moment on every race that I entered they (gg) made it hard on me, and that there would not be any photos taken of my dragster at any race that i entered, and would not let me take any photos up on the start line, soooo im glad to see the g.g. go.... their are some racers out there that know my photos that i have taken,. some good some way to coooolll, looking forward to shoot again,.
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Post by jrvanosten on Oct 2, 2006 12:26:55 GMT -5
Guys and gals....I know there are a lot of feelings both ways towards the GGs events.....I will not jump on it either way....but hopefully the nostalgia racing community will come out of this ok....
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Post by KEN on Oct 2, 2006 14:43:22 GMT -5
I CALLED GG AND THE RACE IS STILL ON FOR NOVEMBER BUT STILL WORKING ON NEXT YEARS RACING.RUMOR WAS THAT EVEN THIS RACE WAS CANCELLED BUT THIS IS NOT TRUE ACCORDING TO DIANNE AT GG..
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Post by jrvanosten on Oct 2, 2006 15:34:49 GMT -5
The F&G Finals is still on the first weekend of November. 2007 is the only thing in question for the GGs. As I have said, I have my opinions, either good or bad, that's all they are...my opinions. I support the ANRA 150% and then some, but come 2007 my brand new race car sitting in my garage was probably only going to see GG events because I work with Butch to put on the ANRA events....not a complaint, just a fact that I would still run there if I could....but it would be my decision to take my chances with whatever issues arrise.
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